Talk:Bark (sound)
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[edit]I would like to see a section on the physiology of barking. I've heard that barking is different from how the human voice works, thus a dog's "voice" doesn't get tired after hours of barking, but there is nothing about the nature of it here. If anyone is qualified, please consider writing such a section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.65.200.205 (talk) 13:15, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
You don't need to take article to AfD to rid them of unencyclopedic material or to redirect them. Please explain why we need an article about a dicdef with a whole lot of translations of onomatopoeia in other languages?
Peter Isotalo 16:20, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- It's already been discussed (and decided upon) in VfD - see Talk:Oink. -- ChrisO 18:03, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- "Oink" is really more of an interjection than a noun to begin with, making it very questionable as a Wikipedia article. Also, AfDs are not precedents for anything other than the article being voted on, and I still say that oink is no less a dictionary definition than "help", "jolted" or "greet". An encyclopedic article has to contain something other than comments on how the term is used and its etymology; that's what dictionaries are for. There's no harm in mentioning usage of actual encyclopedic terms, but not to keep articles merely to duplicate content intended for Wiktionaries. "Why dogs bark" belongs in dog not here, and the rest is just a long list of foreign language onomatopoeia.
- Peter Isotalo 09:50, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
barklessness
[edit]A number of dog species do not bark. I don't know much about it, but this is probably a good place to cover the phenom, if someone knows enough to do so... Tomertalk 06:40, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Sources
[edit]Am I the only one that finds it amusing how 13 of the 14 sources in the article are used to cover a tiny, supplementary paragraph? Legend Saber (talk) 22:12, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
WP is not a how to
[edit]The "bark control" appears to be written in an instructional format. Wikipedia is not an instruction manual; it is not a how to. Shouldn't the section be rewritten or removed? GO-PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 01:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
It ideally should go to Wikihow since there's no need to remove a perfectly good piece when it would fit on one of the other wikis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.45.4 (talk) 22:21, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
Nuisance
[edit]There's a link to nuisance at the bottom of the page, which dosen't exactly have much to do with the article and isn't from a perspective of neutrality. I'm new, though; I'll leave it up to you. Kausill (talk) 00:07, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- Agreed. It's gone now. Gobonobo T C 05:52, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
An image of a dog barking?!
[edit]lol 85.65.84.165 (talk) 10:07, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
onomatopoeic terms
[edit]The onomatopoeic terms are what I came looking for. While I can see that it's not necessarily related to barking, the phenomenon of how a word is written controls how we hear a sound is significant that it needs mentioning and cataloguing *somewhere* in the wiki. Ideally, though, there'd be a single central table of all onomatopoeias, possibly on some related wiki rather than wikipedia itself, akin to Derek Abbott's effort here: http://www.eleceng.adelaide.edu.au/personal/dabbott/animal.html
I added the quintessential French sound (everyone who's grown up with Tintin will know Snowy's "ouah, ouah"), as well as a few others from the above source, plus http://www.gbarto.com/languages/animasounds.html. - DewiMorgan (talk) 20:30, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
The onamtopeic words cannon be described as transliterations as a transliteration is a mapping of one system of writing to another. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.78.240.73 (talk) 07:30, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
Change name from Bark (utterance)
[edit]I don't think a bark is an utterance. Utterances are a part of spoken language. I believe a more precise naming convention is in order and propose moving this page to bark (vocalization) or bark (vocalisation). Gobonobo T C 00:38, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
- You are wrong about that.
- http://www.thefreedictionary.com/utter
- ut·tered, ut·ter·ing, ut·ters
- 1. To send forth with the voice:
- ut·tered, ut·ter·ing, ut·ters
- There is nothing wrong with using "utterance" to refer to a dog's bark. Now kindly remove the "neutrality disputed" bullshit at the top of the page, please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.45.224.186 (talk) 12:50, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
Image
[edit]Removing the image at the top of this page per WP:Images; the image in no way contributes to the article or exemplifies the concept of barking (the dog in the photo could be grinning, for all we know). It's merely a picture of a dog with its mouth open. True, it might be hard to find an image for barking at all since it's a sound phenomenon, but that's no excuse to put up an ambiguous picture and try to pass it off as a helpful one. 192.83.228.119 (talk) 18:46, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
Requested move
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The result of the move request was: page moved. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 06:00, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
Bark (utterance) → Bark (sound) – Echoing the concerns expressed here in 2010, I think "utterance" carries a connotation of spoken words. Compare to Quack (sound), which redirects to a section of Duck. Bark (vocalization) could be a more formal alternative. BDD (talk) 18:01, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
- Support, and "vocalization" would be fine too. Yes, "utterance" has the wrong connotation to my mind; even though the dictionary seems to have some non-speech definitions for "utterance", including the cry or call of an animal,[1] those feel incorrect. I wonder if this is a regional difference of some kind. — P.T. Aufrette (talk) 05:34, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
- Support, makes sense to me. Miyagawa (talk) 22:07, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
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Dogs and Wolves
[edit]The section "Barking in dogs" opens with the assertion that dogs and wolves are unquestionably unique species. This is entirely false and actually completely opposite of the truth. Currently, the domestic dog is scientifically classified as Canis lupus domicticus, a domesticated subspecies of the wolf. They are no longer considered to be a separate species. The section places some emphasis on the degree of difference between dogs and wolve, and needs to be revised. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.45.169.2 (talk) 22:54, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Ancient Greek
[edit]- I assume the "ghav ghav" is modern Greek. Any idea what it might have been in Ancient Greek? Cake (talk) 00:38, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
- @MisterCake: ἆυ ἆυ ἆυ Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:04, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]Why does my edit keep getting reverted? I promise I'm not a vandal. 101.100.129.88 (talk) 04:02, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
Inhale or exhale
[edit]Mention if the bark is produced by a quick exhale, or inhale?! and if the same in all animals. Jidanni (talk) 01:48, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
Tone alterations
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